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Post by baldlygo on Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:34 pm

After 3 months of messing (including 4 trips to Limoges, two trips to a doctor, 2 trips for photos and both parts of my EU photo card License translated to French) I manage to get my French Driving Permis. Cath has the old non photo licence so we thought there may be extra difficulties for her but after weeks of collecting documents/photos etc we set off for Limoges thinking we had it cracked!

We collected our ticket at the Limoges Prefecture and waited for 30 minutes to have our number called - reasonably quick following last years experience!

Without the girl seeing Cath's collection of papers she said she cannot deal with us and we have to make an appointment to see her boss - in June! She gave us an official form - Convocation Exchange des Permis de Conduire Etrangers - to confirm the date which also includes a list of documents we will need. In addition to the those expected it lists - un relevè d'informations à demander auprès de votre consulate
Does anyone know what this is?

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Post by Amber on Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:48 pm

Is there a reason you need to change your licenses, because it's not obligatory. We've lived here for nearly 14 years and still have our U.K. issued licenses and yes, they are also the old pink paper ones. In fact my husband's is nearly falling to bits because he left it in his jeans pocket once when I washed them and it causes much amusement when it has to be photocopied for any reason.

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Post by Myriam on Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:45 pm

According to Google translate it means: a statement to request information from your consulate. Very vague.

Often it depends very much on who you speak to in a prefecture. You could try going there again and speaking to another person.

What we need here in Tulle is the following documentation:
- Proof of address (EDF or Taxe d'Habitation bill)
- your British drivers licence (make a copy for yourself beforehand to keep)
- copy passport (take the original with you)
- 2 recent identify photographs (at Casino supermarket there is usually a booth where you can make them
- a form CERPA 11247 (which you can download)

If your current licence includes driving with a trailer, you need 2 additional photos and aneye test (the Prefecture has a list of GP's that do this and it cannot be from your own GP).

Reasons why you have to change to a French licence include:-
- If your licence expires (Dutch licences are only valid for 10 years for example)
- If you have been stopped by the gendarmes and lost points.

Good luck, I hope you will succeed the next time.
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Post by Inkflo on Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:16 am

I agree with Myriam. That's all we needed when we went to Limoges Prefecture.
Just went in at 8am when they opened, handed it all over and left at 8.15am.

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Post by lady of leisure on Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:21 pm

What did it cost for the license?  Has anyone changed a h g v class 3? And know the cost of changing it? Cheers Very Happy

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Post by Inkflo on Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:02 pm

I don't recall paying anything at all.

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Post by baldlygo on Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:57 pm

Thanks for the comments - yes we do want a French license for Cathie and I managed just a year ago to get mine - eventually after paying various extras.
There are only two counters dealing with licenses and a ticket system - so no chance of choosing a person. Permis counters are not open on Wednesdays - and you can't leave any papers with anyone else at the Prefecture which we discovered last year when I had to return with a chequebook - cash or cards not accepted for Permis.

However we think that they have made a mistake with insisting on an appointment this time and we will be getting a French friend to ring and query.

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Post by Inkflo on Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:05 am

It's bizarre. We didn't have any problem at all in Limoges and we've always paid for registrations etc at the desk by bank debit card.
I wonder if something's changed since then?

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Post by Inkflo on Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:26 am

Well things have changed. According to the Haute Vienne Prefecture website, they will only deal with change of foreign licences by appointment only on Thursdays at counter no.6.
Nous vous informons que depuis le 1er janvier 2015, le dépôt des dossiers de demande d'échange de permis étranger se fait uniquement sur rendez-vous, le jeudi entre 8h30 et 12h (sans ticket) au guichet n°6. Le rendez-vous est à prendre soit aux guichets des permis de conduire, soit par téléphone du lundi au vendredi de 9h à 12h (05 55 44 18 00).

9 Mars 2015 - Haute-Vienne


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Post by Myriam on Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:13 pm

Thanks, Inkflow, I'll call the Tulle office before going there, might save us a journey.
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Post by redburmese on Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:08 am

Is it not possable to renew your British license ,all my family live in england and her addresse can be used ,i live in creuse has anyone had a problem here getting a french license !
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Post by Inkflo on Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:55 pm

redburmese wrote:Is it not possable to renew your British license ,all my family live in england and her addresse can be used ,i live in creuse has anyone had a problem here getting a french license !

It's not obligatory, but as baldlygo says, they prefer to have a French one.
It's also much better to change over when you get to 70, as the French one is for life & the UK one has to be renewed every three years, so it's much easier to change over to the French one.

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Post by redburmese on Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:29 am

Thanks Inkflo ,just have to try GUERET and see what happens ,but have time as i have till november !!but will give it a go before then incase of lots of hassle!!
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Post by Inkflo on Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:44 am

Here's the govt page that tells you what you need and there are pdf files that you can print off and complete beforehand.
http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/F1758.xhtml
Basically you need the following ...
The completed forms https://www.formulaires.modernisation.gouv.fr/gf/cerfa_14879.do and Cerfa n°14948*01, Ref.06. It must be printed in colour.
* 2 photocopies of your UK license (both sides) & if necessary a certified translation (don't know how you decide if it's necessary!)
* Photocopy of both sides of your passport showing the page with your nationality on it. Take original too
* Copy of Utility bill less than 6 months old with your name on it. Take original too (If you don't have one with your own name on it, take your marriage license)
* Copy of Proof of more than 6 months residence in France i.e. CPAM Attestation/Tax Demand etc. Take Original too
* 2 standard passport photos, but some prefectures demand three or four, so it pays to take all four.
* Large stamped, self addressed envelope
* If you have any HGV or PSV entitlement then you need to take proof of those.
* The tarif for the Limousin i.e. depts 19,23 & 87 is 27 euros according to the govt website.

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Post by baldlygo on Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:51 am

Unless things have changed since last year you will definitely require the translation by one of their official translators. Also remember your payment must be by cheque - not cash or credit card!
If your existing licence is for more groups than a car (eg towing or larger vans) then you will need to be tested by an official qualified doctor. (more delay, more photos and more fees)

At least when your French license finally arrives (assuming they now post them in your envelope- I had to collect mine!) you feel you have achieved something very special Exclamation

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Post by Inkflo on Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:55 pm

Is that the list of govt approved translators from the website?


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Post by Inkflo on Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:00 pm

My hubby exchanged his about 18 months ago at Limoges, and they put all of the classes on his French one from his UK one,plus a class that he never had in the UK no questions asked. He didn't get a translation and they posted it back in the envelope we provided.
I have a small plastic one from the UK, but there isn't much on it to translate, so hopefully I won't need to. However, it seems they chop and change the rules as they please!

Spoke to Limoges today, and they now ask for the utility bill to be less than three months old, the UK license must be translated to confirm the classes permitted in the UK and any points incurred.
They now need three photographs.

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Post by hashwilliams on Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:14 am

The formalities are huge to get license exchange, many issue to clear the formality.

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Post by Myriam on Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:26 pm

As with so many formalities, it depends largely on the local préfecture what is required. In Tulle for example, you don't need a translation of your old licence and you do not require to make an appointment.

Just treat the officer at the desk with respect and don't lose your temper if they are coming over as trying to be awkward. They have to keep to the rules, however unlogical or unnecessary they may seem.
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